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	<title>Comments on: Debunking the Atkins Diet</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.betterbodyjournal.com/diet-and-healthy-eating-articles/debunking-the-atkins-diet#comment-13174</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 21:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow so much confusion! I agree that Protein should be the staple in ones diet if they are trying to loose weight.  Of course we need carbs but people eat way too many bad carbs and wonder why they are fat!  I'm not a fan of diets but think South Beach Comes closest to what is proper eating.  Its difficult to just change your eating habits but if your serious and want results..Just Do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow so much confusion! I agree that Protein should be the staple in ones diet if they are trying to loose weight.  Of course we need carbs but people eat way too many bad carbs and wonder why they are fat!  I&#8217;m not a fan of diets but think South Beach Comes closest to what is proper eating.  Its difficult to just change your eating habits but if your serious and want results..Just Do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary (the weight loss guru) Holdon</title>
		<link>http://www.betterbodyjournal.com/diet-and-healthy-eating-articles/debunking-the-atkins-diet#comment-10787</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary (the weight loss guru) Holdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nodoubt that diet systems have some benefits and also have some hurts;but what of them is greater than the other;benefits or hurts ;who can decide;is this need a questionnaire;and can we trust the results.
we are inneed to someone have the authority to avoid us the confusing of misleading information .
finally,i still doubt about diet systems and i advice my friends to keep away from it .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nodoubt that diet systems have some benefits and also have some hurts;but what of them is greater than the other;benefits or hurts ;who can decide;is this need a questionnaire;and can we trust the results.<br />
we are inneed to someone have the authority to avoid us the confusing of misleading information .<br />
finally,i still doubt about diet systems and i advice my friends to keep away from it .</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Man</title>
		<link>http://www.betterbodyjournal.com/diet-and-healthy-eating-articles/debunking-the-atkins-diet#comment-10120</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 08:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to this body builder dork and his anti-'Atkins' diet.   Well fool, are you a cow?
Do you eat grains every day?   Have you got 4 stomachs?   Do you graze on cane sugar on top of it? 

It's not the 'Atkins' diet, it just a return to a proper diet.   Humans aren't meant to digest 90% of the 'carbs' they do.   All Atkins did was point this out, publish it and spread the word.

Why don't you go bench press until you tear a pec.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to this body builder dork and his anti-&#8217;Atkins&#8217; diet.   Well fool, are you a cow?<br />
Do you eat grains every day?   Have you got 4 stomachs?   Do you graze on cane sugar on top of it? </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not the &#8216;Atkins&#8217; diet, it just a return to a proper diet.   Humans aren&#8217;t meant to digest 90% of the &#8216;carbs&#8217; they do.   All Atkins did was point this out, publish it and spread the word.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you go bench press until you tear a pec.</p>
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		<title>By: Itsme</title>
		<link>http://www.betterbodyjournal.com/diet-and-healthy-eating-articles/debunking-the-atkins-diet#comment-9658</link>
		<dc:creator>Itsme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 04:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been on the Atkins diet for almost 8 years, and I've lost slightly over 90 pounds.  Do you really believe that I've lost 72 pounds of water??

If you reread your attack objectively, you should be able to see some of the flaws in it.  I won't address them all because it's obvious that you don't let your beliefs be interefered with by the facts.

Here are some facts.  You can't dispute them because they are my truth.  They are what happened to me:

1) This is the easiest diet that I have ever been on.  Do you think you can dispute that?  Can you name a diet that I've ever been on that was easier?  Prior to going on Atkins I tried numerous diets.  I lost weight but always regained it.  On other diets, I was always hungry and eventually couldn't stand the hunger and started eating more and more until I regained all the weight that I had lost plus more.  I even went through medically supervised diets, but I had the same results.  I've never been hungry on the Atkins diet.

2)  By any marker of health that you care to use, I'm the healthiest that I've ever been.  When I was 21 years old (I'm 52 years old now) and only slightly overweight, my doctor was concerned about my cholesterol (230) and a few years later he became concerned about my blood pressure (140/90).  When I was in my early 40s I was diagnosed as a diabetic.  My initial HGbA1c was 12.7 and the best I could do, even taking medication was about 7.6.  Now, thanks to the Atkins diet, my blood pressure is 105/65, my total cholesterol is 160 and my HGbA1c is 4.5.  Do you know how good 4.5 is?  It's better than the average non-diabetic!  It's probably better than you!

3)  I feel the best I have felt since I was in my early 20s.  And I don't feel like a prisoner of food.  You can't imagine what a relief that is.

One problem with your page about the diet is that it's based on half-truths and totally out of context statements.

As an example of the bias in your writing, you mentioned that after stopping the Atkins diet, the lost weight would be regained.  Well Hello!  Have you heard of gravity?  Please list for me the diets that you can stop and not regain the weight and some more to go along with it.  I know right now that if I stopped the Atkins diet that I would regain this weight and probably some more as well.  The difference is that I can stick to this diet for the rest of my life.  I could never even stick to any other diet for a year.  For those in the know, Atkins is considered truly a WOE or WOL (way of eating or way of life).  You can stick to it.

Of course the Atkins diet is not for everyone, but for lots of people it works extremely well.  Think of it like eyeglasses.  Some people are farsighted, some people are nearsighted and some people need reading glasses.  That's the way it is with diets.  Some people can stick to some types of diets better than others.  The Atkins diet is extremely easy to stick to as long as you don't feel a sense of entilement to your carbs.  The Atkins diet is totally intolerant of cheating.  If you cheat it won't work, and you can't stick with it.  It usually takes just a week or two to overcome your carb craving.  Some people have such a strong psychological attraction to carbs that they never stop thinking about them and they eventually start cheating on the diet and fail.

Another problem with your page is that words can cause real harm.  Oh, I'm sure it's fun to just go all out on a topic, but there are real people who might make a decision based on what they have read on your page.  I'm sure that you feel that you're right, but what if you're not.

A person might have a heart attack, stroke, kidney failure, etc years earlier because they followed your advice.  When you dispense health advice you have an obligation to fully understand the advice you give because it can have such a profound impact on people's lives.  I think the advice you give here about the Atkins diet is wrong, but right or wrong, it's unbalanced.  If you think about most things in the world, they have advantages and disadvantages.  Did you really try to present this information in a balanced way?  You should when you present health information.  Any other approach is unethical.  Which is what I think you are.

I have a friend who writes a computer blog and the info on it is very biased, but so what.  That doesn't affect people in a life and death way.  I suggest that if you want to continue writing in such a lame way that you stick to topics that can't cause so much harm to people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been on the Atkins diet for almost 8 years, and I&#8217;ve lost slightly over 90 pounds.  Do you really believe that I&#8217;ve lost 72 pounds of water??</p>
<p>If you reread your attack objectively, you should be able to see some of the flaws in it.  I won&#8217;t address them all because it&#8217;s obvious that you don&#8217;t let your beliefs be interefered with by the facts.</p>
<p>Here are some facts.  You can&#8217;t dispute them because they are my truth.  They are what happened to me:</p>
<p>1) This is the easiest diet that I have ever been on.  Do you think you can dispute that?  Can you name a diet that I&#8217;ve ever been on that was easier?  Prior to going on Atkins I tried numerous diets.  I lost weight but always regained it.  On other diets, I was always hungry and eventually couldn&#8217;t stand the hunger and started eating more and more until I regained all the weight that I had lost plus more.  I even went through medically supervised diets, but I had the same results.  I&#8217;ve never been hungry on the Atkins diet.</p>
<p>2)  By any marker of health that you care to use, I&#8217;m the healthiest that I&#8217;ve ever been.  When I was 21 years old (I&#8217;m 52 years old now) and only slightly overweight, my doctor was concerned about my cholesterol (230) and a few years later he became concerned about my blood pressure (140/90).  When I was in my early 40s I was diagnosed as a diabetic.  My initial HGbA1c was 12.7 and the best I could do, even taking medication was about 7.6.  Now, thanks to the Atkins diet, my blood pressure is 105/65, my total cholesterol is 160 and my HGbA1c is 4.5.  Do you know how good 4.5 is?  It&#8217;s better than the average non-diabetic!  It&#8217;s probably better than you!</p>
<p>3)  I feel the best I have felt since I was in my early 20s.  And I don&#8217;t feel like a prisoner of food.  You can&#8217;t imagine what a relief that is.</p>
<p>One problem with your page about the diet is that it&#8217;s based on half-truths and totally out of context statements.</p>
<p>As an example of the bias in your writing, you mentioned that after stopping the Atkins diet, the lost weight would be regained.  Well Hello!  Have you heard of gravity?  Please list for me the diets that you can stop and not regain the weight and some more to go along with it.  I know right now that if I stopped the Atkins diet that I would regain this weight and probably some more as well.  The difference is that I can stick to this diet for the rest of my life.  I could never even stick to any other diet for a year.  For those in the know, Atkins is considered truly a WOE or WOL (way of eating or way of life).  You can stick to it.</p>
<p>Of course the Atkins diet is not for everyone, but for lots of people it works extremely well.  Think of it like eyeglasses.  Some people are farsighted, some people are nearsighted and some people need reading glasses.  That&#8217;s the way it is with diets.  Some people can stick to some types of diets better than others.  The Atkins diet is extremely easy to stick to as long as you don&#8217;t feel a sense of entilement to your carbs.  The Atkins diet is totally intolerant of cheating.  If you cheat it won&#8217;t work, and you can&#8217;t stick with it.  It usually takes just a week or two to overcome your carb craving.  Some people have such a strong psychological attraction to carbs that they never stop thinking about them and they eventually start cheating on the diet and fail.</p>
<p>Another problem with your page is that words can cause real harm.  Oh, I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s fun to just go all out on a topic, but there are real people who might make a decision based on what they have read on your page.  I&#8217;m sure that you feel that you&#8217;re right, but what if you&#8217;re not.</p>
<p>A person might have a heart attack, stroke, kidney failure, etc years earlier because they followed your advice.  When you dispense health advice you have an obligation to fully understand the advice you give because it can have such a profound impact on people&#8217;s lives.  I think the advice you give here about the Atkins diet is wrong, but right or wrong, it&#8217;s unbalanced.  If you think about most things in the world, they have advantages and disadvantages.  Did you really try to present this information in a balanced way?  You should when you present health information.  Any other approach is unethical.  Which is what I think you are.</p>
<p>I have a friend who writes a computer blog and the info on it is very biased, but so what.  That doesn&#8217;t affect people in a life and death way.  I suggest that if you want to continue writing in such a lame way that you stick to topics that can&#8217;t cause so much harm to people.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://www.betterbodyjournal.com/diet-and-healthy-eating-articles/debunking-the-atkins-diet#comment-8553</link>
		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, This is Mary

I am 36 years old with 2 toddlers. My youngest just started day care last week- which still feels a little strange. I haven't had this much time to myself in years. First thing I want to do is lose the extra pounds I put on during the last pregnancy. One of the girls next door has suggested I join her walking group two days a week. After my first pregnancy I lost around 35 pounds using the Herbalife products, but when I called the man that sold them to me three years ago he told me this week he doesn't sell them anymore. He told me to look on the internet. It's disappointing because he was really nice and  he called me regularly to make sure I was using their products correctly. It was nice to have someone checking in with me every week to see how I was and it kept me motivated.

I searched on the internet for someone that sells Herbalife in New Jersey. I found many websites but I don't want
just to buy the products, I want to find someone trustworthy that sells the products so I can also meet them and  get started again.

Could anybody here recommend someone in New Brunswick?
.

Thanks, Mary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, This is Mary</p>
<p>I am 36 years old with 2 toddlers. My youngest just started day care last week- which still feels a little strange. I haven&#8217;t had this much time to myself in years. First thing I want to do is lose the extra pounds I put on during the last pregnancy. One of the girls next door has suggested I join her walking group two days a week. After my first pregnancy I lost around 35 pounds using the Herbalife products, but when I called the man that sold them to me three years ago he told me this week he doesn&#8217;t sell them anymore. He told me to look on the internet. It&#8217;s disappointing because he was really nice and  he called me regularly to make sure I was using their products correctly. It was nice to have someone checking in with me every week to see how I was and it kept me motivated.</p>
<p>I searched on the internet for someone that sells Herbalife in New Jersey. I found many websites but I don&#8217;t want<br />
just to buy the products, I want to find someone trustworthy that sells the products so I can also meet them and  get started again.</p>
<p>Could anybody here recommend someone in New Brunswick?<br />
.</p>
<p>Thanks, Mary</p>
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		<title>By: mik</title>
		<link>http://www.betterbodyjournal.com/diet-and-healthy-eating-articles/debunking-the-atkins-diet#comment-3549</link>
		<dc:creator>mik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I WILL say it - David is entirely wrong.  To read a better synopsis that I can give, please visit AtkinsExposed.org

Basically, the body CAN use dietary protein for fuel, but it's inefficient.  It will cannibalize it's own muscle as a quicker solution to produce the glucose absolutely required by your nervous system through the process known as gluconeogenesis before it will start the energy inefficient process of using dietary protein as fuel.  

To say the body begins to "prefer ketosis" is like saying a formula 1 race car, if fueled with it long enough, will prefer  87% octain free gasoline from the Mini Mart pump to the specialty mix used in race cars.  It simply isn't true.

Protein catabolism and fat catabolism results in some very toxic waste products, like acetone and other ketone bodies.  These by products are extremely toxic to your metabolism and will slow it down, not to mention what it does to your blood chemistry.

In order to excrete ketones through the urine, your body must first connect it with a substance that will neutralize it's negative charge.  In science speak - ketones are anionic and they must be paired with a cation or they will cause problems - like making  your urin very acidic and causing kidney and bladder damage.

In order to do this, your body uses magnesium, potassium and calcium.  It has to use a lot of these to neutralize what you are excreting.  In doing this, your blood ph begins to go out of whack and get more acidic.  As your blood pH falls, you begin to get in a danger zone where your cardiac function is in danger.  If your blood pH falls TOO low, your heart stops.

Ketosis is NOT a good thing.  It never has been and it is a situation to be avoided.

Frankly, Atkins was a hukster and charlatan who wrote a book that would ensure devotees would buy at least SOME of his coctail of 65 suppliments.

Stay far, far away from the low carb craze.

God Bless,
mik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I WILL say it - David is entirely wrong.  To read a better synopsis that I can give, please visit AtkinsExposed.org</p>
<p>Basically, the body CAN use dietary protein for fuel, but it&#8217;s inefficient.  It will cannibalize it&#8217;s own muscle as a quicker solution to produce the glucose absolutely required by your nervous system through the process known as gluconeogenesis before it will start the energy inefficient process of using dietary protein as fuel.  </p>
<p>To say the body begins to &#8220;prefer ketosis&#8221; is like saying a formula 1 race car, if fueled with it long enough, will prefer  87% octain free gasoline from the Mini Mart pump to the specialty mix used in race cars.  It simply isn&#8217;t true.</p>
<p>Protein catabolism and fat catabolism results in some very toxic waste products, like acetone and other ketone bodies.  These by products are extremely toxic to your metabolism and will slow it down, not to mention what it does to your blood chemistry.</p>
<p>In order to excrete ketones through the urine, your body must first connect it with a substance that will neutralize it&#8217;s negative charge.  In science speak - ketones are anionic and they must be paired with a cation or they will cause problems - like making  your urin very acidic and causing kidney and bladder damage.</p>
<p>In order to do this, your body uses magnesium, potassium and calcium.  It has to use a lot of these to neutralize what you are excreting.  In doing this, your blood ph begins to go out of whack and get more acidic.  As your blood pH falls, you begin to get in a danger zone where your cardiac function is in danger.  If your blood pH falls TOO low, your heart stops.</p>
<p>Ketosis is NOT a good thing.  It never has been and it is a situation to be avoided.</p>
<p>Frankly, Atkins was a hukster and charlatan who wrote a book that would ensure devotees would buy at least SOME of his coctail of 65 suppliments.</p>
<p>Stay far, far away from the low carb craze.</p>
<p>God Bless,<br />
mik</p>
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		<title>By: Francesco Oneal</title>
		<link>http://www.betterbodyjournal.com/diet-and-healthy-eating-articles/debunking-the-atkins-diet#comment-2787</link>
		<dc:creator>Francesco Oneal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 00:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Francesco Oneal&lt;/strong&gt;

it seems to me that alot of people on here are mis-informed. to lose weight, protien should be the staple of your diet. A proper macronutrient breakdown for your calories is the correct way to go about losing weight. basically, you want about 1-1.5gms ...</description>
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<p>it seems to me that alot of people on here are mis-informed. to lose weight, protien should be the staple of your diet. A proper macronutrient breakdown for your calories is the correct way to go about losing weight. basically, you want about 1-1.5gms &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lush</title>
		<link>http://www.betterbodyjournal.com/diet-and-healthy-eating-articles/debunking-the-atkins-diet#comment-2573</link>
		<dc:creator>Lush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 02:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i should also add, all the articles i write for this site are intended for major athletes, so unfortunately, some things will be a little bit "different" in terms of info for the casual exerciser, or the major athlete who lives in the gym. i am not saying i know EVERYTHING about everything, but i write based on experiences of being an athlete. there's my rant...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i should also add, all the articles i write for this site are intended for major athletes, so unfortunately, some things will be a little bit &#8220;different&#8221; in terms of info for the casual exerciser, or the major athlete who lives in the gym. i am not saying i know EVERYTHING about everything, but i write based on experiences of being an athlete. there&#8217;s my rant&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 02:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Fatty Beaubatty:
this site is meant to be laid back and straight to the point. i apologize if my "rough around the edges" writing offended you. i hope that doesnt deter you from the site.

@David:
thank you for your insight, but if i make a recommendation.... do some more research about the human body and how it works with certain diets. not saying your in the total wrong here, but you're not in the total right, but thanks for your feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Fatty Beaubatty:<br />
this site is meant to be laid back and straight to the point. i apologize if my &#8220;rough around the edges&#8221; writing offended you. i hope that doesnt deter you from the site.</p>
<p>@David:<br />
thank you for your insight, but if i make a recommendation&#8230;. do some more research about the human body and how it works with certain diets. not saying your in the total wrong here, but you&#8217;re not in the total right, but thanks for your feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd like to comment on the statement, "Your body will take amino acids and convert them to glucose to provide your muscles and your brain with the proper things they need to function...".
It's simply not true, and shows you do not understand how the body's metabolism, on a low-sugar diet, switches into ketosis, or 'fat-burning mode', which is to say that your muscles (and especially the cardiac muscle) begin to PREFER fatty-acids as fuel.  There are a couple places in the body where glucose is required and can't make the switch - enter gluconeogenesis.  You're liver has no trouble producing enough glucose (from protein and fat) to sustain your bodily needs, without eating a single carbohydrate.  Did you know a person with normal blood sugar, say 100mg/dl, has a total of ONE TEASPOON of serum glucose? 
One of the biggest misnomers of the Atkins diet is that it's "LowCarb" because it's not.  Fiber is super important to any human, and is NOT restricted (it's encouraged) on the Atkins diet, however if you read a nutrition label it lumps the fiber count into the carbohydrate count.  So people on Atkins are eating a lot of carbs, what they're really doing is cutting out the sugar (i.e. the empty calories).
One final closing thought: Of the 3 major food categories - fat, protein, and carbohydrates - there is only 1 that is we can completely remove from our diet and not die.  Can you guess which one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to comment on the statement, &#8220;Your body will take amino acids and convert them to glucose to provide your muscles and your brain with the proper things they need to function&#8230;&#8221;.<br />
It&#8217;s simply not true, and shows you do not understand how the body&#8217;s metabolism, on a low-sugar diet, switches into ketosis, or &#8216;fat-burning mode&#8217;, which is to say that your muscles (and especially the cardiac muscle) begin to PREFER fatty-acids as fuel.  There are a couple places in the body where glucose is required and can&#8217;t make the switch - enter gluconeogenesis.  You&#8217;re liver has no trouble producing enough glucose (from protein and fat) to sustain your bodily needs, without eating a single carbohydrate.  Did you know a person with normal blood sugar, say 100mg/dl, has a total of ONE TEASPOON of serum glucose?<br />
One of the biggest misnomers of the Atkins diet is that it&#8217;s &#8220;LowCarb&#8221; because it&#8217;s not.  Fiber is super important to any human, and is NOT restricted (it&#8217;s encouraged) on the Atkins diet, however if you read a nutrition label it lumps the fiber count into the carbohydrate count.  So people on Atkins are eating a lot of carbs, what they&#8217;re really doing is cutting out the sugar (i.e. the empty calories).<br />
One final closing thought: Of the 3 major food categories - fat, protein, and carbohydrates - there is only 1 that is we can completely remove from our diet and not die.  Can you guess which one?</p>
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